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Israel vs Palestine face off LIVE in Gaza Flotilla debate



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The world has strongly condemned Israel for storming a flotilla of ships carrying humanitarian aid to Gaza. For more reaction to this story, RT has talked to Abdul Karim, a member of the Palistinian Legislative Council, and Dr. Ra'anan Gissin, a former advisor to Arial Sharon, live from Tel Aviv and the West Bank.


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Array ( 1 week ago by mosak06)
@passover09
The simple answer to that question is this: Palestinians cause problems because Israelis mistreat them, kill them, literally steal their land despite international condemnation. Let us not forget that Israel has an army, a navy, a blank check from the USA, and around 200 WMDs. Palestine has nothing.
The 4 dead Israelis is sad, & everyone must condemn this. But to put the numbers in perspective: Since 2000, total number of Jewish civilians killed: 738. Palestinians killed: 6,404.
@mosak06 and ... ( 1 week ago by passover09)
@mosak06 and theres a simple answer why!! the palastenians use civilans as shields! in the caslead war this past january!! hiding weapondry in mosques? shootin from kindergarten roofs! the way the palastenians fight put all there civilains in trouble..when a palastenian blows up a bus kills 13 jews and 5 palastenians thts worth it? losin 5 of ur ppl for 13 slummy jews? not 1 israeli is worth any amount of the palastenians..we wud never make tht sacrifice and neither shud u
@passover09 Wow. ... ( 1 week ago by mosak06)
@passover09 Wow. WOW. This that you have said is very sad. Friend, who said it is "my" land against "your" land? This is not "me" against "you" or "us" against "them" - it is precisely this type of mentality that will perpetuate the seemingly endless conflict in the middle east.
Sir, I am an American. I could care less if it's "your" land or "theirs." Reading your immature, ignorant generalizations like "the[y're] all crooks!! and u know it!!"
Try a new mentality for a change: right vs wrong.
Array ( 1 week ago by mosak06)
@passover09
Friend, I truly fail to see your point. It is silly for us to debate fight tactics used. You say Palestinians use human shields? I say Israelis use white phosphorous on civilians, completely against international human rights law. It goes back and forth. Let us remember that one group is correctly labeled "crazy terrorists," and the other group committing human rights violations is a "civilized democratic government." You show HOW they fight, I say ask urself WHY they fight.
@mosak06 sir sorry ... ( 1 week ago by passover09)
@mosak06 sir sorry to be rude but how many lifes were take by the sept 11th attack? the one that was constructed by i believe the palastenians correct me if im wrong
Array ( 1 week ago by mosak06)
@passover09
Not rude at all, a valid attempt at an argument. Roughly 3000 lives were lost on 9/11. A true tragedy. And no, it was not by Palestinians - but you're close. It was in fact Al-Qaeda (bin Ladin is Saudi, not Pali).
Now a question for you - WHY were my people were killed? I'll tell you. The 9/11 Commission hearings stated that Osama & Khalid Sheikh Mohamed (the true orchestrator) attacked NOT bc of "religious" reasons, but SPECIFICALLY BC USA AIDES ISRAEL IN KILLING PALESTINIANS.
@mosak06 and ... ( 1 week ago by passover09)
@mosak06 and listen i am too american..just when i have the thought of the 10 little children attending there parents funeral it gets me worked up..i wish there would be peace but u think thats possible in the near future? we just dont seee eye to eye and i wish we did..life is a gift from god tht ppl these days take for granted..and these days unfortunately talking as a world not a country were focused on the wrong stuff.
Array ( 1 week ago by mosak06)
@passover09
You see, it is quite simple really. Not only does Israel slaughter innocent Palestinians, bulldoze their homes, illegally occupy their land - it now does so at the risk of American lives. It is quite obvious without MY USA money YOUR ISRAEL could not have weapons to kill innocent people. THAT is why terrorists hate my country sir. Not because they "hate our freedoms" or whatever Bush said.
I'm for peace, friend. And if the roles were reversed today I would support the Jews 100%.
Array ( 1 week ago by mosak06)
@passover09
You see, that's the problem. This happens every time I have a discussion with a right-wing Israel supporter. You blame the other side over and again, and when I show you that your side is in fact the one causing the majority of the conflict, you retreat and say something general like "i want peace but we don't see eye to eye." No sir. That won't cut it. Your people lived side by side in peace with the Palestinians prior to WWII when they ruled their land, and look how you live now.
@mosak06 around 4 ... ( 1 week ago by passover09)
@mosak06 around 4 months ago i had 3 idf soldiers stay by my home. these are kids who are 18 to 19 yrs old who didnt get the oppurtunity to enjoy life. these 3 soldiers explained that every day they pray for peace..it kills the every time they pull the trigger even on terrorists bc none of this should happen and its a mess that israela nd america got into together and we fight for peache together..they want peace as well my friend
Array ( 1 week ago by mosak06)
@passover09
You don't need to send me anecdotes or pleas of mercy for your poor IDF soldiers. My co-worker was a former IDF soldier who wants peace. As was my professor. I don't hate the IDF's soldiers, but I do despise the men giving them orders. You must stop generalizing - no, not all IDF soldiers are angels ironically pulling triggers for peace. Yes, we all want peace. But the first step is to be critical of our country's actions, this is something I have yet to see you do of Israel.
these people even ... ( 1 week ago by PandemicMadness)
these people even had the nerve to name this vessel the "freedom" flotilla. Lol. Always a laugh those guys are.
when a palestenian ... ( 1 week ago by passover09)
when a palestenian is firing at an idf soldier that i understand, hes firing for maybe self defense or out of anger but when a palastenian goes ahead and blows up a bus full of innocent ppl to send a message thats obserd..or going to a jewish school and killing 8 inocent students learning..thats unheard of!! and they even target americans! so as an american how can u support them?
"What all patriotic ... ( 6 days ago by karlkarlkarl1234)
"What all patriotic Americans who care about their country need to stand up and say, not only did they (the Zionists) attack the USS Liberty for nearly 2 hours killing over 30 US sailors - an act of war they got away with - but also to say: They (Mossad) Did 9/11! It is 100% certain."
Dr Alan Sabrosky
Head of Studies in US Army
@fistedsaxe Hey, ... ( 6 days ago by cameronchilders93)
@fistedsaxe Hey, first off learn to SPELL, you illiterate. Secondly, GO ZIONISM!! The jews have put up with cowardly, 3rd rate enemies for way too long. The hell with the "two state solution" Israel should KEEP the whole "west bank". Let the jordanians take in their co-religionists. AND your "analogy" is flawed: ever hear of "statute of limitations"?? Remember, the Israelis have big, thermo nukes, better to wipe out Iranian threats. Wake up: the Israelis WILL use them if backed into a corner.
@mosak06 Yes and ... ( 4 days ago by DurbanII)
@mosak06 Yes and who funds them....like the US funding Fatah. IF you google
US GENERAL KEITH DAYTON YOU WILL FIND OUT THAT HE HAS BEEN TRAINING FATAH Police for the past several years and THE PENTAGON HAS BEEN ARMING FATAH AS WELL.
fuck israel!! ... ( 3 days ago by HAMMYZ94)
fuck israel!! palestine for life, those heebs might be able to get our brothers and sisters in palestine but they can never kill all of us , when the day of reckoning comes god will judge everyone for what they've done, and he is the the all knowing.
The only state ... ( 1 day ago by LiamMacSuibhne)
The only state backing anyone ''into a corner'' is israel. Taking this one incident for example...an attack on international waters IS a WAR CRIME. These people were NOT miltary personnel, merely sympathisers.
And why shouldn't people sympathise with Palestine?
Israel needs to come to terms with its own war crimes, subjugation of Palestine's self-determination and its own history. Israel has become the most illegal and dangerous state in the world.
Its disgusting. Beyond belief.
Peace2all
Furthermore, there ... ( 1 day ago by LiamMacSuibhne)
Furthermore, there is a strong echo of Northern Ireland when people talk about 18/19 year old soldiers not knowing what they're doing. Just like Northern Ireland and the British soldiers, Vietnam and US soldiers...it is the political masters who must pay. And answer for these war crimes. Plenty Israeli soldiers have expressed their disgust with their own government's policies.
Israel's trreatment of Palestine is contrived and indefensible.
Well said Mosak06.
Array ( 1 day ago by RepublicOf32)
@LiamMacSuibhne
Come on Liam lad, give the statelet it's proper name man; The occupied 6.
@ cameron and ... ( 7 hours ago by freshdaily4u)
@ cameron and passover- How about I come over to your house or trailer raid your fridge and eat up all your food, make your mom start suckin me off while your sister and girlfriend dyke out with each other and then as soon as I bust off off all over them, i'll shit that nasty ass kosher fuckin junk food i found in your fridge all over the both of you. Then throw all of you pussy's out in the street. Now thats Chutzpah!
@ cameron and ... ( 7 hours ago by freshdaily4u)
@ cameron and passover- How about I come over to your house or trailer raid your fridge and eat up all your food, make your mom start suckin me off while your sister and girlfriend dyke out with each other and then as soon as I bust off off all over them, i'll shit that nasty ass kosher fuckin junk food i found in your fridge all over the both of you. Then throw all of you pussy's out in the street. Now thats Chutzpah!
@ cameron and ... ( 7 hours ago by freshdaily4u)
@ cameron and passover- How about I come over to your house or trailer raid your fridge and eat up all your food, make your mom start suckin me off while your sister and girlfriend dyke out with each other and then as soon as I bust off off all over them, i'll shit that nasty ass kosher fuckin junk food i found in your fridge all over the both of you. Then throw all of you pussy's out in the street. Now thats Chutzpah!
@cameronchilders93 ... ( 5 hours ago by fistedsaxe)
@cameronchilders93 I'm sure they will, but your a racist terrorist and karma's a bitch



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